If you simply want to enjoy the goodness of this entire 85-minute conversation, there it is above. You're welcome.

If you don't have time to imbibe all of this baseness straight into your soul, here are a few highlights.

Prof. Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro of Daily Wire talk about the how Peterson has been made into a Marvel supervillain, the Rousseauian view that people are naturally good but socialization and institutions like the "patriarchy" are evil, and what it means to give people hope for a future.

A few quotes from Peterson:

• "It's incumbent on us to realize that the call to adventure is necessary, and that it has to be built in some manner into our political thinking. The [Radical] Left is very, very good at it. They're much better than the Left Centrists, and they're MUCH better than the centrist Right. Trump managed that to some degree with his populism, but not to the same degree as the dramatic intellectuals on the Left."
• "From a material perspective, in terms of absolute privation, worldwide, humanity is way better off on nearly every dimension you could possibly measure than ever. And most of that improvement has occurred in the last 40 years and it's been revolutionary in its speed. And no one knows this!"
• "What if it was the case – all cynicism defeated with this proposition – that there isn't anything that would actually make you feel more engaged in your life than taking the opportunity to take the best in someone else and encourage that development?"
• "Institutions get corrupted by deceit and by power all the time, but that doesn't mean that that's their central essence. So I tell young people, you know, maybe responsibility, that's where you'll find what you need – what you desperately need. And I don't say that because I'm shaking a stick at them. I say that because that's what looks to me like it might be the case."
• "We flower inside institutions. They're not our enemy. It's a myth, Ben, it's a myth! It's the same thing. It's the tyrannical patriarchy killing the natural soul. It's like, YES, because every society demands its pound of flesh and we're all crushed and bent and warped by socialization insofar as it was based on deceit and power and insofar as our institutions were inadequate. That's true, but it's not enough of the truth. Look at our very language. Every word we speak was invented by other people. Every word we speak we've agreed on the meaning. Everything we do is social to the core. That's not all our enemy. That's a myth. It's Peter Pan vs. Captain Hook. And Peter pan never grows up. And the patriarchy isn't Captain Hook. Crooks are Captain Hook."
• "If you want to be a scientist, you have to abandon being RIGHT. You have to be wrong all the time and learn. And often learn that the opposite of what you presumed was true. The same is true if you're a real engineer."
• "The ideology just tells you want to think about everything, so you're always right, and someone else is always wrong. And even worse, they're evil. And THAT'S where things go out of control. As soon as the evil person isn't YOU, you're on shaky ground."
• "I've been criticized too because I stress personal responsibility. It's like, it's not like I don't stress social responsibility. It's like but you're a loose canon, man. Get yourself tied down. Straighten yourself the [heck] up. See if you can say what you believe to be true and open your eyes, and then take on responsibility in a manner that will make YOU suffer if you're wrong. And then, if you can survive that trial by fire, which you can define, then maybe you can DARE to start moving the dials and levers of the broader world. It's more a call to humility than a denial of social responsibility."
• "People are lonely. They need someone to communicate with and they need someone to tie themselves together with so their lives make a rope. They need someone to communicate with when times are good and to share their triumphs and they need someone to share their catastrophes. And they need a framework that's stable so they can have children."
• [Of a North Korean refugee who had to sell her own mother into slavery]: "She felt just about as stymied in her freedom of speech studying humanities as she did in bloody North Korea. That's what we're doing to young people. It's so appalling. There's so much that people can be offered: this richness of the past, so much that's desperately necessary. This isn't optional: the idea that man does not live by bread alone. That's not religious claptrap."
• "Moderate conservative types like yourself, you have to tell a better story. That's your responsibility fundamentally. And that's the right way out of this, rather than to defeat... the better story wins. So you have to tell a better story. And it doesn't mean you conjure it up or you fabricate it. It doesn't mean that you use expedient means to push it forward. None of that. The best story is based on love and truth. It's the most powerful story. Nothing can stand in its way."

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