So we're all dying to know why Vivek Ramaswamy left DOGE, and when The Breakfast Club host Charlamagne Tha God got Vivek on yesterday he cut to the chase pretty blatantly on this question.
Here was Vivek's answer:
Asked if he was pushed out of DOGE, Ramaswamy replied,
No, to the contrary, and you know, I would say just to be super clear about it — I have no problem with, you know, framing or whatever — it was really just an actual mutual decision where you look at here was one vision on approach, here's a different vision on an approach. That's great, there's no right or wrong answer. With a technology-driven approach and a technology-first approach, there's no better person than Elon to run with that.
With a constitutional law focus, with a legislation focus, some of the areas I was focused on, probably the right place to do it is elected office. And so we all agreed on that, and I think that that's actually a good thing where we're able to, where we're actually able to collaborate, divide and conquer.
Charlamagne comes in with an "I don't believe you," to which Vivek replies,
I knew that the right step for me in the long run is elected office and to pursue the vision that we're talking about here to actually translate the action in my own terms. That's what I've been called to do. It was clear that I could not do that and serve on DOGE at the same time, even for logistical reasons.
Asked if Trump and Elon are going to endorse him in his run for office:
We're all on very good terms. And so I wouldn't want to speak for anybody else, but I will say that they're very supportive of of the decision that I made to pursue as my next step.
And now I must give you some more of Vivek's words from earlier in the interview, because they say much more than the above clip does.
It was a slightly different vision from where we started to where we landed. And it's not that it's, one's right or wrong, but if you take a look at where we began, right? DOGE is gonna be an outside body to the government, one of my core areas of focus throughout has been the constitutional and legal basis for shutting down the bureaucracy, and the federal government, and downsizing it. That's what our focus, I've written my books on, etc.
It evolved in more of a direction of a technology project, using a technology-first approach. And so Elon [Musk] and I were on good terms, good personal relationship, slightly different approaches to the project. And what he and I both concluded — and I think this is right — is given my focus on law, on legislation, the right way to realize my vision is through elected office, so that's what I'm gonna be pursing.
Also,
I would say that we arrived at it pretty mutually. I mean, I think when it came that DOGE was in the government-, so there's actually a law, it's called the Hatch Act, boring stuff, but you literally can't run for office while you are an employee of the government unless you're the president or vice president. I've been committed to this path of likely running for governor of Ohio for a long time. My plan initially might have been to do those at the same time. Once it became clear that was impossible to do at the same time, once it became clear to me that that was the right next leadership destination for me, it felt like the start of the project on day one was the right way to start that next chapter.
So there you have it, folks.
I'll let you decide if he's telling the truth.
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